EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules

Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by kingstoned on Saturday May 13, 2023 @11:54AM (#35929579)

  "One thing that makes me skeptical about the EU long term is the way they seem to view regulation not as an unfortunate necessity, but as an exciting project."

https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1050787382390329345

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by snacktaster on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:42PM (#35930083)

It would be one thing if the heavy-handed, often premature, EU regulations were in some way intended to foster production of its own technology companies to compete at large scale in its own market. But we all know that doesn't happen. Any European with an entrepreneurial spirit is all but forced to go start their company in USA. It seems like anything that appears potentially useful but has undefined or unanswered legal questions is just banned before anyone can figure out what the actual problems are. Sigh.

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by nickpp on Saturday May 13, 2023 @11:57AM (#35929625)

The fact that they don’t seem to learn from the disastrous results of current regulation is even scarier.

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by rad_gruchalski on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:49PM (#35930148)

Plus, the fact that they create laws open to interpretation shows these people have no idea.

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by orra on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:59PM (#35930258)

This is absolute hyperbole. Does the U.S. not have a Supreme Court, and indeed other courts, for interpreting legislation?

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by rad_gruchalski on Saturday May 13, 2023 @01:09PM (#35930377)

US is not EU. Both US and UK use a different legal system than Europe. From the EU itself: https://ec.europa.eu/dgs/legal_service/seminars/20140703_gom...

> The main principles of EU law are equality before the law; legal certainty; predictable, clear and comprehensible legal provisions; and transparent legislation. 2 These principles can be upheld only if EU law has the same meaning in all language versions.

“Open to interpretation” has nothing to do with the quote above. It doesn’t matter what the US has and what it does not. We’re not discussing the US here.

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by orra on Saturday May 13, 2023 @01:18PM (#35930460)

> It doesn’t matter what US has and what it does not. We’re not discussing US here.

When you claim the EU “has no idea” apropos nothing—simply for having a mechanism for interpreting statues in court—it is entirely reasonable to question your double standard.

All major legal jurisdictions have courts to resolve things...

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Re:EU lawmakers take first steps toward tougher AI rules by rad_gruchalski on Saturday May 13, 2023 @01:37PM (#35930668)

“Apropos nothing” added by yourself. Look - it doesn’t matter how the law is interpreted in the US because we’re not discussing the US here and the US is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

This AI act, together with the CRA, are written by the people who, vast majority of them, never worked with software. Yet, they intend to regulate software. This will go wrong.

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