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Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by elif on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:58PM (#35925053)
In my small neighborhood there is a group of 4 teenagers who have stolen probably a dozen kias. They drive them for 20 minutes, total them for a tik tok, and walk away with immunity. They have been arrested, charged, and released at least 3 times.

One of my neighbors has a recent kia that is not susceptible to these hacks, and 2 weeks ago witnessed these teens trying to steal her car one night. She went out and told them they were on camera, and they threatened her and kept trying to steal the car. She called the police who came later and explained steering wheel locks and did little else. The next night the same teens came back, and this time having learned about the details, went out and informed them that her car was not susceptible. They continued trying, damaging the ignition with a screwdriver but not stealing it. The third night in a row, she left a note explaining it in the window, which did not deter them but cause them to bust out the window with the note taped on it.

The city is now distributing steering wheel locks for free to any kia owners, but they have caused a local shortage and can no longer offer them.

I've had neighbors waiting for their appointment to have the ignition modified have their cars totaled.

If you street park your car, even if it isn't a kia, you have high odds of being side swiped by one of these kids on purpose.

It's not a car theft issue, it's a legal joyride and clout exercise. You are lucky if your city is still only experiencing car theft and not this new form of car terrorism.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by strix_varius on Saturday May 13, 2023 @02:06AM (#35926030)
"You stole a deadly vehicle and put people's lives in danger with it. Multiple times. You will be tried as an adult and the minimum sentence is 5 years."

Why is this not the obvious solution?

(not as if you could single-handedly enact it, of course, but why isn't the city's leadership doing so?)

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by throwawaaarrgh on Saturday May 13, 2023 @08:23AM (#35927684)
This used to be the "solution", except all it did was act as a gladiator academy that turned out more hardened criminals after 5 years. Do that every year and every year you are just working a machine to create crime.

Turns out that just putting people in jail doesn't make society safer.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by tinus_hn on Saturday May 13, 2023 @09:11AM (#35928032)
Turns out patting people on the back and tearfully nodding to the stories about their sad youth doesn’t make society safer either. Ultimately life just isn’t fair and people do need to be induced to take responsibility for themselves.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by kwere on Saturday May 13, 2023 @10:06AM (#35928515)
prisons should traumatize/give PTSD to "serious" criminals (like mandatory isolation, i'm not advocating for free torture from guards), enough to create a pavlovian like reaction at just the toughts of committing crimes. Rehabilitating marginalized prisoners with trainings and social programs after the punishment is a must
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by throwawaaarrgh on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:56PM (#35930227)
so, we should be living the movie A Clockwork Orange?
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by kwere on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:28PM (#35933389)
no, but some "lost causes" understand only violence, fear and shame if anything, religion served most of that purpouse, but that isnt effective nowadays. This strict treatments should be reserved to violent, higly recidive, antisocial, worst of the worst criminals, as a way to not have them treating the punishment of prison as a "gladiatior academy". 41bis like treatments in Italy could be a starter.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by pauldenton on Saturday May 13, 2023 @02:41PM (#35931336)
Letting the criminals roam free with impunity makes society less safe
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by brickteacup on Sunday May 14, 2023 @09:44AM (#35937909)
Just give violent criminals exponentially increasing sentences for each conviction. Then they'll only get a handful of chances to reoffend in their lifetime
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by elif on Saturday May 13, 2023 @08:41AM (#35927810)
I'd be fine with this.

To be honest I don't understand the laws but in my city there is a dude who has done this literally 90 times

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