Tupac's acting debut too

   they definitely don't make em like this anymore.

And for that I'm glad. Chevy Chase only did the film as a personal favor to Dan Akroyd. That movie is ridiculous alright, and as a younger person, nightmare fuel. It's grotesque on an almost-horror level.

It might not be for everyone, but this was one of my favorite movies growing up. You could make the same comment about Beetlejuice (of which I am excited they are making a sequel).

You sir are someone I could probably enjoy a favorite movie marathon with.

Raising Arizona is another from that era which really clicked for my young mind...

Is it going to be Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian like originally planned? (That was the actual pitch for several years)

Why would Beetlejuice finally getting a sequel be something to get excited about? Every other decades-later sequel has sucked thus far, why would this be any different? What made it great was the zeitgeist of when it was made.

> What made it great was the zeitgeist of when it was made.

Riiight, the young, gothy, Winona Ryder had nothing to do with it.

I'm gonna hope you aren't objectifying a fifteen year old even retrospectively and assume you just felt she was a cool character.

Counterpoint: de-aged CG Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones. It's still gonna suck because Harrison Ford being young and hunky wasn't what made them good movies. It was the whole package, and that was a result of the zeitgeist.

> I'm gonna hope you aren't objectifying a fifteen year old even retrospectively and assume you just felt she was a cool character.

9 year old me totally objectified her upon seeing this film, sue me.

I even ended up dating goth girls in my teens probably because of this movie.

Nobody is trying to sue 9 year old you.

But we have come to the point where we disapprove (rightly so) of those who put a 15 year old in the spot so that 9 year olds would objectify her.

Where do we draw the line though? A hypersexualized society is certainly no good, but a hyperprude one can't be either.

Kids entering puberty will, guess what, enter puberty, and if they have eyes they'll have dreams

Kids sexualizing kids is not good. Statutory rape laws exist for a reason.

Isn't statutory rape about a minor and nonminor, not two minors?

Just for clarity I'm not advocating for letting kids having sex with each other. I'm saying that it's normal for kids have crushes and feel attracted by other kids, feeling "butterflies" in their stomach when the girl or boy they have a crush notices then or whatever. That's perfectly normal and is part of what it means to grow up. It is fueled by hormones and that's all natural.

A hypersexualized society is one that short-circuits all this development and make it happen too fast and that's not good. A hyper-prude society is one that actively suppresses that and makes kids feel bad about what they feel and that can't be good either

You don't like that movies are made as personal favors? A lot of movies are made that way, seems like a weird reason not to like something so much that you not only avoid it yourself, you're glad others won't see it too.

Chevy Chase using a car phone is worth it for the historical perspective.