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Re:What Is Permaculture? by vintermann on Thursday May 11, 2023 @01:36PM (#35905491)
Even if that, you need shovels. You need a lot of stuff that wears out, that you can't make yourself. You need to participate in an economy. Some of it can be with other permas, but much of it likely won't.

It's always been like that. Farmers from the stone age on have used tools manufactured a long way away.

Re:What Is Permaculture? by CapstanRoller on Thursday May 11, 2023 @01:58PM (#35905797)
No one said anything about avoiding participating in an economy or abstaining from tools.

You seem to be confusing permaculture with primitivism.