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Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by arp242 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @10:56PM (#35896771)
It's only in hindsight that you can say the hope was "vain"; many Eastern European countries are doing fairly well, as are most Balkan (former Yugoslavia) countries. Further back you can also look at post-Franco Spain as a success, or Germany after the second world war.

At some point you got to say "okay, we'll try again with you guys". Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. There's a fine line to walk here, but in the end it's the only option there is other than perpetual hostilities.

Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by hnfong on Thursday May 11, 2023 @02:37AM (#35898538)
There's also perpetual colonialization and extermination of people you don't like.

Neither options are good, just bringing them up since they have been done in the past.