Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covid-19 last winter

Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by justsomehnguy on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @08:21PM (#35895529)

> Putin completely destroyed a cosmopolitan city killing thousands of civilians

Ah, those civilians:

>> It was revealed that on 23 May 1996, on Rodionov's 19th birthday, after more than a hundred days of torture, Rodionov and two other soldiers were offered renunciation of their Christian faith and conversion to Islam in order to save their lives. Rodionov refused to convert to Islam and even to remove the silver cross he wore. After that decision, he was beheaded on the outskirts of the Chechen village of Bamut by Chechen rebels. Ruslan Khaikhoroev, the murderer, accompanied by an OSCE representative, later admitted the killing, saying to Rodionov's mother, "Your son had a choice to stay alive. He could have converted to Islam, but he did not agree to take the cross off. He also tried to escape once."[6] Andrey Trusov was beheaded; Igor Yakovlev and Alexander Zheleznov were shot dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Rodionov

It was a sad day when LiveLeak was gone, otherwise you could see 'cosmopolitan civilian's' actions firsthand.

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Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by int_19h on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @09:12PM (#35895979)

The vast majority of the residents of Grozny who were killed by indiscriminate artillery fire levelling much of the city were not engaged in these kinds of activities. Quite a few of them were ethnically Russian, even.

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Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by justsomehnguy on Thursday May 11, 2023 @01:07PM (#35905048)

'Chechen separatists could had just leave and the war would end in a day', as a popular nowadays take.

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Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by kspacewalk2 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @09:12PM (#35895981)

So what, you're denying the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, many of them well-documented and many resulting from massacres rather than "mere" indiscriminate bombing, because jihadis also showed up and tortured some POW for religious reasons? I don't even know how to characterize your comment without swearing profusely, so I'll just say it left me rather speechless.

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Re:Expensive energy may have killed more Europeans than Covi... by justsomehnguy on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:55PM (#35904891)

You are thinking what by mere mentioning actions of 'some jihadis' I already deny 'deaths of tens of thousands of civilians'. You also completely ignore who were these jihadis and why they 'showed up'.

But it looks like you are totally okay with jihadis 'torturing some POW', including beheading on the cam and straight up shooting them, indiscriminate raping of civilians along with a very discriminate ones. Ask Yelena Masyuk how she feels about those 'freedom fighters' she loved before. Hint, it's not mentioned in Wikipedia what they did to her, but I think there are still videos of that somewhere on the Net.

And of course you absolutely ignore (because you don't even know?) what happened before that and how 'civilians of cosmopolitan city' behaved with the people of improper origins. Or what happened after that. Here, refresh your memory: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/09/world/4-foreigners-are-fo...

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