Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by kbenson on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @11:16AM
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It may be xenophobic, but whether it's a lie is separate from that and it may or may not be. Unpalatable assertions can still be true.
For what it's worth, "fake it till you make it" is far from being universally seen as positive, and (car) salesmen are seen as one of the most untrustworthy and least liked professions (just above telemarketers and members of congress). [1]
1: https://thehill.com/business/3812900-here-are-the-most-and-l...
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by mydogcanpurr on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @11:21AM
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Do you have an alternative explanation? Or is your stance that it just couldn't possibly be immigrants?
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by licebmi__at__ on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @12:58PM
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Maybe academic cheating is related to people pursuing a degree more like a passport to riches than a vocational pursuit.
I mean, the whole reason why people also lie in other areas. Which also explains why people of “low trust” societies might lie more rather than “it’s in the culture of those dirty foreigners”.
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by JohnFen on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @11:48AM
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> if Americans don’t celebrate lying on positive euphemisms like “fake it till you make it” or “being a good salesman”
Most Americans that I know don't consider those phrases to reflect positive values at all. They're used disparagingly against people who really think like that.
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by kelipso on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @04:19PM
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Either you live in some bubble or you're just lying lol.
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by JohnFen on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:25AM
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Well, we all live in bubbles, don't we? That's why it's interesting to have a glimpse into other people's bubbles, and be reminded that our own experiences are often not representative of the whole.
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by kelipso on Friday May 12, 2023 @12:02AM
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Ya true, just some bubbles are smaller than others.
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by Floegipoky on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @12:40PM
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Fwiw I've usually seen "fake it till you make it" in 2 contexts:
1. Disciplines in which skill development requires overreaching beyond one's current skill level eg musical improvisation
2. In reference to confidence eg many software developers experience imposter syndrome and have to pretend to be more confident than they actually are in order to be taken seriously, even if they are the most skilled in the room
Re:My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted
by TeeMassive on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:51PM
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Similar experiences have been reported by people who came from these places
It’s a xenophobic lie, like if Americans don’t celebrate lying on positive euphemisms like “fake it till you make it” or “being a good salesman”