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Re:Next Computers by klelatti on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:28PM (#35865967)
The 68030 does look like a curious choice for a machine launched in 1988.

Wikipedia says that they considered the Motorola 88000 but with a source that I've not been able to track down.

Re:Next Computers by GlenTheMachine on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:36PM (#35866047)
They developed a dual-CPU prototype box based on the 88000, circa 1992. It was never released - the company was bought before it advanced past the prototype stage.

They also had a prototype laptop, although I don't know for certain which CPU it was based on. Because the existing battery technology couldn't provide enough juice for reasonable runtime, it was going to be a plug-into-the-wall design.

Re:Next Computers by hsm3 on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:42PM (#35866110)
NeXT wasn't bought until late 1996. That didnt kill the RISC project, what happened is the company dropped all hardware and became software-only (primarily on top of x86 boxes, but some lower-level pieces ran on HP and SPARC).
Re:Next Computers by GlenTheMachine on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:45PM (#35866153)
Ah, yes, you are correct. Thanks for jogging my memory.
Re:Next Computers by mattl on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:09PM (#35866419)
And spun off their hardware division as Firepower systems and sold it to Canon
Re:Next Computers by knuckleheadsmif on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:26PM (#35866621)
They gave up on the 88000 the same time Apple did (yes it was considered at Apple too) and is directly related the IBM/Apple PPC partnership and Apple’s insistence that Motorola being a second source for the PPC. It was really Motorola that gave up on the 88000 and not Next.
Re:Next Computers by Maursault on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:45PM (#35866161)
> The 68030 does look like a curious choice for a machine launched in 1988.

GP is exaggerating. Spark and MIPS were more expensive machines for a different market NeXT wanted a toe in but was merely straddling; business and education were NeXT's target markets. The 68030 with a math coprocessor was bleeding edge in 1988. Sun released a 20MHz and 33MHz 68030 Sun-3x in 1989, a SunOS (UNIX) workstation.[1] Apple released the 68030 Mac SE/30 (16MHz) in Jan. 1989. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the 68030 in 1988/1989. If anything, NeXT was a little fast out of the gate with the 25MHz 68030 in 1988.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-3#Sun-3x

Re:Next Computers by chris_j on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:10PM (#35866429)
Why was a 68030 a curious choice for a machine launched in 1988?
Re:Next Computers by hulitu on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:32PM (#35867302)
68020 could run a distributed network OS (Domain OS/Aegis). What was wrong with 68030 ?
Re:Next Computers by iohead on Monday May 08, 2023 @07:13PM (#35868150)
As part of a project code-named "Jaguar", Apple did consider using a Motorola 88K variant as their future RISC-based hardware, but it was short-lived and they moved on to the POWER Architecture. In 1991, Apple, IBM, and Motorola formed the "AIM" alliance with the goal of creating a Common Hardware Reference Platform (CHRP). This led to the PowerPC architecture, which included most of the POWER instructions along with some additions and deletions.