You don't need Scrum. You just need to do Kanban right (2022)

Re:You don't need Scrum. You just need to do Kanban right (2... by Scarblac on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:47AM (#35859807)

The main point of points is that they are not supposed to be equivalent to x amount of time.

They're supposed to represent a measure of complexity.

How much time that then takes depends on who does the work, the order in which tickets are implemented, how much distraction there is, luck (do you encounter any unforeseen problems), and so on.

They're then used to see how many issues will fit in a sprint, which is a measure of time. So everybody ends up treating them as representing time anyway...

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Re:You don't need Scrum. You just need to do Kanban right (2... by re-thc on Monday May 08, 2023 @06:23AM (#35859996)

That’s the theory but it doesn’t help managers so they still convert it back to time somehow.

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Re:You don't need Scrum. You just need to do Kanban right (2... by hgsgm on Monday May 08, 2023 @08:38AM (#35860885)

Scrum was never for managers. If a manager is involved in predictions, it's not scrum. Scrum is about delivering the best you can each month, with client/management setting priorities and then appreciating what they get, instead of trying to steer the car from the boot.

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Re:You don't need Scrum. You just need to do Kanban right (2... by re-thc on Monday May 08, 2023 @11:26AM (#35862644)

Sure, I get what scrum is. "Scrum" in the real world isn't that though - at least 80% of the common case (check the other comments).

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