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Re:Htmx Is the Future by lakomen on Saturday May 06, 2023 @07:45AM (#35840359)
I hate HATEOAS with a passion.

Yet another useless Java gimmick with no support other than 1 single framework, Spring Boot.

If htmx has anything to do with HATEOAS it's going to be ignored out of principle.

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Re:Htmx Is the Future by _heimdall on Saturday May 06, 2023 @11:46AM (#35842481)
Mind sharing why you have such strong opinions on HATEOAS?

Is you problem that there aren't many implementations of it today or concerns with the architecture itself?

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Re:Htmx Is the Future by recursivedoubts on Sunday May 07, 2023 @05:13PM (#35855646)
That's because you are using in a JSON API context, where it doesn't make any sense.

HATEOAS (or, as Fielding prefers to call it, the hypermedia constrain) is a necessary component of a truly REST-ful networking system, but unfortunately the language around REST is all jumbled up.

I try to explain why this is here:

https://htmx.org/essays/how-did-rest-come-to-mean-the-opposi...

and I try to explain what HATEOAS really is here:

https://htmx.org/essays/hateoas/

and I try to explain why HATEOAS has been, by and large, a failure outside of true hypermedia clients presenting directly to humans here:

https://intercoolerjs.org/2016/05/08/hatoeas-is-for-humans.h...

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