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Re:Squad Solar City Car by munificent on Friday May 05, 2023 @12:43PM (#35831799)
> way less than the amortized cost of an actual car, but a $5k used vehicle pays for itself after 20 such trips.

First of all, the days of getting a decent car for $5k in the US ended with the pandemic and the supply chain insanity. But even if you could do that, you also need to factor in:

* Gas

* Insurance

* Registration and taxes

* Maintenance

If you don't use a car as part of your commute or regular errands, it's likely cheaper to rent.

Honestly, the best compromise solution is usually to share a single car for a household. Not helpful if you're single, but if you have a partner, then you can usually get by fairly well with just one car and now your individual costs are cut in half.

Another way to balance the trade-offs is to own a car that's smaller and more cost efficient but doesn't cover all your needs. Then rent on the infrequent times when you're traveling, camping, bringing a bunch of kids to a party, hauling lumber, etc. and you need the extra storage or passenger space.

Re:Squad Solar City Car by benbenolson on Friday May 05, 2023 @02:04PM (#35832960)
I agree with using a single car for a household: my wife and I have done that for the past six years (living in Tennessee, Oregon, and Arizona) with a 2006 Toyota Highlander that we paid $7,000 in cash for. The last two years, we've had a baby/toddler. We've encountered a few (one or two per six months) situations where we might have _preferred_ another vehicle, but the inconvenience was so minor (I Ubered, or someone picked me up) that another vehicle couldn't remotely be justified. Recently we got a beat-up F-150 to haul lumber and soil, but don't use it day-to-day and have never _needed_ it as a second vehicle.

Regarding the sub-$5k car: it depends on your definition of "decent used car." Most people are unwilling to accept a used vehicle with a slightly broken interior or other minor issues. Just today, I was looking for comparative prices for a 2003 F-150 that I've got, and I found multiple in the $2-3k range in my area that are in good condition (running motor, A/C works, non-necessary repairs required). And that's a pickup truck: if you want a coupe or sedan, there are even more options below $3,000. You just need to be willing to accept some flaws: right now I've got several tabs open of good "A-to-B" cars with under 200k miles.

Re:Squad Solar City Car by 83 on Friday May 05, 2023 @03:02PM (#35833768)
Not sure why gas is on there, it's not like rentals come with unlimited free gas.

And at $250ish to rent a vehicle for the weekend it only takes a couple weekends to pay for the insurance, registration, and taxes (or is it just that much more expensive on the coasts? I'm in the midwest). There's a reason people own instead of rent, and it isn't because renting never occurred to them.

Re:Squad Solar City Car by mehlmao on Friday May 05, 2023 @03:52PM (#35834331)
Zipcar in fishtoaster's example includes gas in the price. The rental car comes with a debit card to pay for gas. There's a surcharge if you drive more than an 180 miles per day (averaged).
Re:Squad Solar City Car by 83 on Friday May 05, 2023 @04:20PM (#35834652)
Munificent is not referring to Zipcar. He literally quoted the line about car rentals and then said "it's likely cheaper to rent".