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Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by bcrosby95 on Thursday May 04, 2023 @05:51PM (#35822580)
Considering how long it took mid level consumer cards to beat my $600 1080, you're way more optimistic than I am.
Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by Taek on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:35PM (#35823538)
The main moat here is VRAM, not raw compute power.
Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by reissbaker on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:47PM (#35823628)
So... Four years? The 1080 launched in 2016, and the 3070 launched in 2020, for $100 cheaper — the launch price of the 1080 was $699, and the 3070 was $599. The 3070 easily trounced the 1080 in benchmarks.

The 3060 effectively matched a 1080 at $329 in 2021 (and has 50% more VRAM at 12GB instead of the 1080's 8GB), so call it five years if the 3070 isn't mid-range enough.

The 3060 Ti launched in 2022 at $399 and handily beat the 1080 on benchmarks, so call it six years if you want the midrange card to beat (not just match) the previous top-of-the-line card, and if a *70 card doesn't count as midrange enough. Less than a decade still seems like a reasonable claim for a midrange card to beat a top-of-the-line card.

Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by zht on Thursday May 04, 2023 @08:03PM (#35823761)
are you conveniently forgetting how none of those cards were actually available for consumers to buy
Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by reissbaker on Thursday May 04, 2023 @08:14PM (#35823833)
The 1080 was impossible to buy at launch too and was sold out for months. And the 3060 is easy to buy!
Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by webmaven on Friday May 05, 2023 @01:12PM (#35832258)
The 3060 is easy to buy NOW, since cryptomining has crashed, and the 40x0 GPUs have become available (though mostly still above MSRP).
Re:Google “We Have No Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI” by MichaelZuo on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:57AM (#35884482)
The 3060 was only readily available quite recently, so it's about 6 years from ready availability of the 1080 at $600 to 3060.

Taking 6 years to double the perf/$ implies that it would take ~42 years for a $40000 H100 to reach mid-range levels. Assuming scaling, particularly VRAM, holds.

And plus it would be getting really close to the Landauer limit by that point.