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Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by mthoms on Thursday May 04, 2023 @12:02PM (#35817591)
Apple does this because the alternative would be devastatingly bad press.

I mean, why do they permit 3 day trials that start billing at $9.99/week after that? For an app that creates ringtones? How many phone apps in the world are worth $520 per year?

And BTW, that "3 day trial"? It's actually 2 days since you have to cancel at least 24 hours before the subscription renews. So it's really 33% less than they claim.

If your child signed up for one of these subscriptions? Apple requires that subscription be canceled from the device that made it — yet provides no obvious way to determine which device that was. Is that child away at school? Too bad. Forgot their phone at a friends? Sorry about your luck.

The whole thing is absurd - letting a minor child control their own subscriptions with no way for a parent (the actual credit card holder) to cancel it unless they jump through a bunch of support hoops.

Apple doesn't get a pass here. They're just smarter about it all. I say that as a huge Apple fan generally.

Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by lencastre on Thursday May 04, 2023 @12:43PM (#35818304)
Trials absolutely need to be super clear about the exact date of start of billing. I think iOS has gotten much better and you have even a dedicated subscriptions tab in your iOS profile in settings.
Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by mthoms on Thursday May 04, 2023 @01:36PM (#35819220)
True, but you have no insight into subscriptions that a minor has made on your credit card as part of family sharing. One might expect them to appear there but they don't.
Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by r00fus on Thursday May 04, 2023 @12:49PM (#35818425)
Honestly I wonder how much of the ludicrously priced app fees are just facilitation of money laundering.
Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by brewdad on Thursday May 04, 2023 @04:15PM (#35821469)
There's a reason scammers demand to be paid in iTunes gift cards.