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Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by nerdjon on Thursday May 04, 2023 @11:33AM (#35817048)
100% this.

Going even further I always get emails when yearly subscriptions are charging in a few days and those emails even include how to cancel the subscription if I no longer wish to use it.

I know people love to complain about the App Store, and there are some valid complaints. But companies being forced to use this mechanism for subscriptions is a huge benefit for consumers.

Also frankly, it's a huge benefit for the developers also. There are a number of apps that I would never subscribe too if I had to use their own custom solution thanks to how many bad behaviors I have seen. But since it is part of Apple's system I don't worry about subscribing.

Edit to add:

I really hope that if Apple does end up being forced to open this up and allow apps to do their own subscriptions. That for many consumers like me, as a developer your choice is 70% of the money or none. I am not moving to your subscription service and will find alternatives.

Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by guestbest on Thursday May 04, 2023 @12:18PM (#35817869)
Apple and Google now only take 15% from mobile app developers with annual revenue under $1 million from the App Store. It means a lot to people like me since they also host and handle payment processing for a net 30-45 contract.
Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by scarface74 on Thursday May 04, 2023 @01:01PM (#35818632)
A company is “forced” to use Apple for subscriptions. It’s been years since either Netflix or Spotify has even allowed in app subscriptions.

I’m not going to subscribe to some unknown indy outside of the app store and guess what happens when someone changes credit cards or they expire? I’m going to update my Apple payment information. I may or may not update my other subscriptions or I may just decide it’s not worth it and let it lapse.

Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by nerdjon on Thursday May 04, 2023 @03:30PM (#35820877)
If I remember correctly they are forced in the sense that neither of those apps are allowed to give you a link to go outside of the App Store?

However I vaguely remember that Netflix had an exception to this, but I don't use Spotify so can't comment on that one.

Re:Companies use dark patterns to keep you subscribed by scarface74 on Thursday May 04, 2023 @04:15PM (#35821470)
Correct, you have to know how to go to their website and subscribe.