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Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password by bscphil on Thursday May 04, 2023 @12:10AM (#35811087)
Possibly a dumb question... the Yubikeys a bunch of us own were originally sold as U2F / FIDO keys. My understanding of this system was that it was, as labeled, a "universal second factor" standard. But passkey is supposed (?) to be a single-factor (something you have, not something you know). Is it doing this just by (ab)using the "second factor" approach for single factor auth? Or is there something a little more sophisticated, and hopefully more secure, happening here?

I tried to do some research myself, but there's no Wikipedia page for "passkeys" and they aren't mentioned on the Yubikey article.

Edit: this user has a helpful comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35810144

> Passkeys add in user verification as a capability so that you can use them for the entire authentication process rather than as just one of the factors. This typically means a biometric challenge or knowledge based challenge, such as PIN/passcode entry.

I'd love to know more about how / whether these challenges are enforced as part of an open standard, or whether it's up to individual implementers of passkeys to roll their own.

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