Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by yeeeloit on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @05:54PM
(#35808299)
> the phone will still have the private key and can still do the login
One of the main gripes people have is about whether or not the user actually has access to the key or not.
ie. Can I save my passkey somewhere that I control, can I login on another device, etc. etc. Or do I need google's sync/account to do that for me.
Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by xdennis on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @06:48PM
(#35808874)
> Google doesn't have a way to MITM that
Google controls the software so it can MITM.
Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by dahwolf on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @07:43PM
(#35809375)
"best have another way to auth"
right, so passwords it is then.
Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by Nathanba on Thursday May 04, 2023 @02:12PM
(#35819739)
well, the argument is that for strong passwords you will need to use a password manager anyway. Which you will sync somehow, which will sync your passkeys too. So in the end you might as well replace all your passwords with passkeys except for the one password you use to access your passkeys in your password manager / the master access basically. The one way to make sure that you never lose access. I think this makes sense, I'm also very dependent on a password manager now.
Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by flippinburgers on Thursday May 04, 2023 @08:39AM
(#35814330)
Unless there is proof that the hardware on the phone is isolated specifically for this task you cannot make the claim that google is unable to MITM.
Re:Passkeys: The Beginning of the End of the Password
by shadowgovt on Thursday May 04, 2023 @09:09AM
(#35814687)
Yes, the hardware vendor that controls the kernel and chips can do whatever they want. I meant there is no method as per the definition of the protocol to MITM the passkey because the device only ever emits the public key unencrypted.
The protocol is private key stored on your hardware; public on the service you're authing to. Google doesn't have a way to MITM that, but if you lose the machine storing the private key, best have another way to auth.