Yes. We have been conditioned to think of politics as a linear thing where the sum of beliefs fit nicely in a point between a set point on the left and a set point on the right. In reality it’s so much more complex and really depends on the relative point in a more dimensional political space that you are peering at them from…

For instance—I see such huge parallels between today’s progressive left and the “moral majority” types that I really can’t functionally separate them but for the gods and scriptures driving the moralities that they preach. At least from the perspective I see them from, which is probably best described as “classic liberalism”, they are essentially identical. It’s also the reason that both of those movements tended to view classical liberalism as anathematic. Their perspective seems to be is that intolerance of outside beliefs and thoughts except their own is their most important quality, so they work to suppress.

Are you talking about progressive left that are socially that way or more? Morality isn’t really part of the economic left (which includes social Justice).

I agree liberals and “moral majority” (which are one and the same really) are similar.

Since the convo is left vs right, do you have any opinions on people on the left who aren’t liberals? They don’t sound like the two groups you discussed.

I personally don’t have any of my views suppressed in a number of communities (not HN of course hah)