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Re:The Socialist Calculation Debate by chmod600 on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:31PM (#35778745)
"Socialism is about how workers organise their workplace (owning, managing and sharing the produce and profit of their labour)."

That is a nice simplification, but it makes it sound like something that can just emerge gracefully within a market economy. There are employee-owned companies, for instance, and if that's all that's needed for socialism to work, then it would spread and show us all the benefits of socialism.

But the benefits are either not there or not amazing enough to spread. I'm left feeling like you left out the controversial parts, and I suspect that when you get into the details, there's lots of room for complicated power dynamics and ownership rules, perhaps much worse than non-socialist alternatives.

Re:The Socialist Calculation Debate by greenie_beans on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @09:18AM (#35786966)
this ignores the systemic and cultural reasons why employee-owned companies haven't spread.
Re:The Socialist Calculation Debate by hbrn on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:35PM (#35791251)
What are those "systemic and cultural reasons" that exist in every single country and culture on the planet?
Re:The Socialist Calculation Debate by Tiktaalik on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @12:19AM (#35797963)
Like in Canada employee owned companies aren't even a legal possibility and it's something the government is only now investigating enabling.

https://mcmillan.ca/insights/publications/budget-2023-employ...

I would expect there are similar barriers in many countries.