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Re:Tesla ran over worker rights, again, US labor judge finds by ethanbond on Monday May 01, 2023 @09:19AM (#35772401)
Wow, now that is a shocking (and revealing) argument. Dismantle government not because you hate government, not because you think it has overreached, not because you think it’s ineffective, but to own the libs. And by own the libs you don’t even mean to disrupt their agenda, but just to put libs out of work. Do you hear yourself?

I never said agencies are ineffective, I said that the lack of reduced budgets is not evidence of much of anything.

Re:Tesla ran over worker rights, again, US labor judge finds by rayiner on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:06AM (#35773823)
I’m just responding to your theory that republicans don’t have an “authentic desire” to reduce agency funding—even if you assume they have some hidden political motive that’s different from what they say, what possible reason do they have for not wanting to cut agency funding?

You did say agencies were ineffective, because republicans had made them ineffective. I’m asking you to offer a theory of how that could be the case. Their budgets are undiminished, and they’re run by democrats who believe in the agencies’ missions.

Re:Tesla ran over worker rights, again, US labor judge finds by ethanbond on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:52AM (#35774592)
Because federal programs are actually very popular among the people who depend on them (e.g. get your government hands off my Medicare)? They do like holding budgets hostage though to get policy concessions, it’s not some secret motive, it happens literally every budget cycle.

I did not say agencies are ineffective. I said GOP tries to dismantle federal agencies and insofar as they succeed, it yields dysfunction, which is of course the purpose of dismantling them (so it’s not bad faith). But this has almost nothing to do with saving money, as evidenced by the fact that GOP does not actually reduce budgets when they have the ability to.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/the-supreme-court...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/politics/trump-asylum-...

Re:Tesla ran over worker rights, again, US labor judge finds by rayiner on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:18PM (#35779997)
So agencies are dysfunctional, but not ineffective. And that dysfunction is caused by the GOP “trying to dismantle” agencies—but not by reducing their budgets. (How? When did the GOP have any opportunity to reduce any agency budget meaningfully?)

Also, entitlements like Social Security are an entirely separate category of spending, subject to different rules. That’s not what we’re talking about here.