Parts for stolen Hyundais and Kias are so scarce the cars are being totaled

Re:Parts for stolen Hyundais and Kias are so scarce the cars... by vidarh on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:46AM (#35771078)

Class and income are not direct parallel. An upper class person falling on hard times still has a generation or three of family and connections and other support structures to reduce the impact. This notion of treating class as about primarily income rather than relationship to control over your own life obscures more than it enlightens. Income affects that control, but so does e.g. societal structures. Family structure is itself a class issue.

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Re:Parts for stolen Hyundais and Kias are so scarce the cars... by neurobama on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:04PM (#35779839)

>Family structure is itself a class issue.

Southeast Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa, both very poor parts of the world on average, have a higher ratio of married couples with children to single parents than do the United States and Canada:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/286433/women-worldwide-single-m...

David Drummond, former head of legal at Google and recipient of $47M in total comp in 2019, had a child with a woman who he abandoned and abruptly cut off:

https://www.businessinsider.com/david-drummond-earned-47-mil...

I can provide more anecdotes and data if you like, but my strong sense is that family formation isn't as nearly as tied to class as you think. If anything, low-income people save more money by co-habitating.

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Re:Parts for stolen Hyundais and Kias are so scarce the cars... by vidarh on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:48AM (#35783817)

I didn't say "family formation" is tied to class. I said that family structure is a class issue.

I also specifically argued against the notion of seeing class as determined by income.

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