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Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by jstarfish on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:33PM (#35764154)
> How could Snowden have gone through that pile in a couple of days while on the run and possibly afraid for his life?

That's the problem.

He didn't/couldn't bother to filter out unrelated documents? So he just stole a bunch of shit and leaked it all to the media and hoped they would find enough outrage in it to justify his behavior?

This isn't whistleblowing, it's reckless espionage, and fruit of the poisoned tree as well-- you wouldn't want the authorities doing this to you (the irony of him exposing the gov doing this by doing the same thing himself...).

Whistleblowing would have meant he caught wind of something illegal, secured enough evidence to prove it and leaked that to the media. Everything exfiltrated beyond that is not in scope.

I hear stories of him being a poor performer about to be fired from his job at the time, hence the urgency to mass exfiltrate. If true that makes this a revenge play, not an act of heroism.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by evantbyrne on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:42PM (#35764254)
That's one way to look at it. Another interpretation would be that he knew about specific things, assumed there were other bad things he hadn't learned about yet, and couldn't filter through it himself.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by namdnay on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:47PM (#35764306)
He sent the documents to be filtered by trusted journalists working for one of the worlds number one investigative newspapers. It’s not like he sold them to the Daily Mail

There’s a slight irony in your comment about his performance reviews - how did that get out? Apparently leaking isn’t always a problem :)

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by HeckFeck on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:09PM (#35764527)
Not all of us can grep as well as we'd like.

Besides, swiping only the most telling and highligy classified documents would've aroused suspicion. He might have been including some line noise to distract a system looking for patterns. Also, including unrelated but genuine documents would make his leak easier to verify because it proves he has access to the source.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by xtian on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:36PM (#35764756)
The government is not a person so your rhetorical device is as nonsensical and irrelevant as your unsubstantiated character assassination. Moreover, a criminal organization can make no claims to ‘fairness’. Criminal governments are no different.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by fallingknife on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:38PM (#35764776)
And you actually believe those stories? They also tried to claim that Assange was a rapist.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by jstarfish on Sunday April 30, 2023 @02:23PM (#35765218)
At face value, no-- my source is government personnel. But it's possible there's more to the story than we've heard from the "victim."

For the same reason, I don't believe Assange was a rapist.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by Loquebantur on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:44PM (#35764828)
Why do the agencies not bother to filter out unrelated material? According to you, the responsible course of action would have to be to record only what is related to illegal activity in the first place.

Your talking about legality is a straw-man anyway: the point is mass surveillance being highly unethical. Not even the law reflecting that fact makes the reality of it only worse.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by msm_ on Sunday April 30, 2023 @02:22PM (#35765197)
>I hear stories of him being a poor performer about to be fired from his job at the time, hence the urgency to mass exfiltrate. If true that makes this a revenge play, not an act of heroism.

Nice comment under an article that specifically calls out state gaslighting (false claims that portray the whistleblower as a bad/immature/insane person, or discredit them in another way).

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by dmbche on Sunday April 30, 2023 @03:11PM (#35765664)
Just to be clear - if you are trying to amass enough proof to bring to the media, but expect to be fired any day now, the logical thing to do is to exfiltrate as much of what could be relevant and sort out the rest after.

Say you exfiltrate not enough and are fired. You're shit out of luck, and there is no way to infiltrate someone else to your position to get the rest out.

I doubt you can honestly see his actions as reckless or revengeful.