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Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by newZWhoDis on Sunday April 30, 2023 @11:49AM (#35763704)
PRISM was both illegal and unconstitutional.

The leadership of these agencies and the congressmen that enabled them on the intel committee are traitors to the republic, plain and simple.

Note to mods: I understand HN isn’t for “waging ideological debate”, but this is an inherently political topic and the discussion is on-topic

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by lern_too_spel on Sunday April 30, 2023 @11:56AM (#35763773)
It's amazing that people still believe Greenwald's and Snowden's description of PRISM in 2023, after we've had access to Snowden's documents and declassified documents for a decade now (on a forum for people who work in the industry and are capable of reading and understanding the documents, no less). No, PRISM isn't illegal, and it is so legal that no lawsuit has ever proceeded to trial because (unlike what Snowden and Greenwald, and inexplicably you, believed) it has nothing to do with domestic surveillance, so nobody in the US would have standing, and no non-US citizen outside the US has any legal rights being violated. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30856033

Also, what is up with your note to mods? This discussion isn't about politics but about understanding what is real and what isn't.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by newZWhoDis on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:11PM (#35763936)
That’s a failure of the courts to apply standing.

You can’t sue because you have no standing, because you can’t prove you were spied on, and proving it would be illegal so… checkmate. :)

PRISM is a clear violation of the 4th, and if we had supremes that were worth a damn all bulk collection programs would be prohibited.