Roadster, Dojo (this one I remember actually believing he sounded so sure it was a done deal years ago), Semi. 10x is generous given his history , can't believe how many people still find him credible

Yet he’s still beating blue origin, rocket labs, every major car company trying to create electric cars, and a charging network.

Promising 10 awesome things and delivering 2 still gives you more awesome things than you started with.

At best you are a grumpy old man who isn’t happy with anything, at worst a resentful anti success advocate.

What have you created in the last 10 years?

I like seeing people be successful. With Elon there is always too much celebrating of announcements vs celebrating successes. He's done well selling EVs and Falcon 9 is great. Mostly he lies though so that's what I assume with any forward looking statements

It’s not lying. It’s being wrong in the timeline for deeply complex technical innovations. This is like me calling my engineers liars every time a task takes longer than expected (which is nearly every time). This whole “predict the exact day humanity will solve its most ambitious technical challenges like self driving cars or you’re a liar” attitude is incredibly toxic

Being wrong once on a date 5 years away isn't necessarily lying. Being many years wrong on frequent "by the end of the year" predictions in a way that happens to help you sell products is lying.

How many times has a simple coding task taken longer that you estimated? I guess you’re a liar too.