New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Buildings

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by pclmulqdq on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:28PM (#35758315)

> But a big part of this was to reduce plastic litter. Plastic in landfill isn't really a problem (oil being dug from the ground being put back into the ground). But putting a (small) price on plastics makes people a little less careless with them.

Motte, meet bailey. There is more plastic polluting the environment in Australia thanks to plastic bag bans, and they have been replaced by paper bags which emit 10x more CO2 per bag (or reusable bags that break even on CO2 after a few hundred to a thousand uses). This should be considered a huge L for the "environmentalists" who pushed it, on all fronts.

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Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by askvictor on Sunday April 30, 2023 @03:49AM (#35760461)

> There is more plastic polluting the environment in Australia thanks to plastic bag bans

Do you have a source for this? Specifically, plastic litter (not in landfill)? Preferably attributable to plastic bag bans and not just following a pre-existing trend?

> they have been replaced by paper bags which emit 10x more CO2

First up, who is giving you paper bags? I haven't come across one store that has replaced plastic bags with paper. Second, this argument was never about atmospheric CO2.

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