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Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by whitemary on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:22PM (#35745918)
Keep digging and sooner or later you'll come around to accepting that your previous discoveries (like broad implementation of permaculture) can never be realized under capitalism; that capitalism is in fact the opposition to your vision.
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by asdfman123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:41PM (#35746136)
Centralized state control has no obligation to the environment either.
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by claudiulodro on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:54PM (#35746277)
I don't think they said it did? There are many more social systems out there than simply US-Style Capitalism and Soviet-style Communism. Something like Anarcho-primitivism is one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by namdnay on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:17PM (#35746544)
Out there where? In the real world, or in someone’s imagination?

It’s like someone saying “java projects get too messy when there are hundreds of developers on them , this new language I’ve invented will be much better, trust me”

Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by asdfman123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:35PM (#35746778)
If you just give my group absolute power, everything will improve.
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by asdfman123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:56PM (#35746304)
I see the word “abolition” in the first sentence of that article.
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by claudiulodro on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:57PM (#35746317)
Did you finish the sentence and get to "abandonment of large-scale organization"? The state isn't the one abolishing things in that system.
Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by asdfman123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:01PM (#35746364)
If you don’t want to use the phrase “the state,” that’s fine.

Whatever powerful entity that determines the laws has no obligation to the environment.

Re:Upward Farms throws in towel ten years after founding ver... by whitemary on Saturday April 29, 2023 @02:50PM (#35755863)
Huh? What are you talking about and who is it directed at?