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Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by seydor on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:48PM (#35744681)
Now can we please get some basic customizations back, like the taskbar settings and the horrible rounded corners. Enough with apeing Apple
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by bitwarrior on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:57PM (#35744806)
Rounded corners? This is the hill you are choosing to die on? How are these trivialities impacting your day to day use of Windows?

I'd say I'm quite the opposite. I'd much rather hear Microsoft working on core technical improvements rather than adjusting the goddamn roundedness of their UI.

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by theandrewbailey on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:02PM (#35744871)
Microsoft keeps messing with the UI in obviously deleterious ways. If they didn't rewrite the entire interface in 11, no one would be complaining about 11's rounded corners. The very fact that they decided to add rounded corners has likely already distracted from kernel work.

Do you remember when Windows 10 was the last version of Windows? I wish we could go back.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by babypuncher on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:26PM (#35745196)
> The very fact that they decided to add rounded corners has likely already distracted from kernel work.

The Windows team is so huge that I wouldn't be surprised if the people writing the shell and the people writing the kernel barely know eachother's names.

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by seydor on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:02PM (#35744866)
The missing UI features and anti-ergonomic styling is affecting my workday more than tiny improvements in performance or memory safety.

And unfortunately my new computer does not allow rollback

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by lelanthran on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:50PM (#35745484)
Yeah, like more telemetry!
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by nullcaution on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:09PM (#35745721)
Honestly the Windows UI is kinda annoying, and it did effect my performance until I recently ditched it for linux w/ i3 as the WM... I want something straightforward and to the point. The windows UI peaked at XP, everything else has been inferior.
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by ilovetux on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:20PM (#35745889)
I agree. XP had the best experience out of any MS OS.
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by sandworm101 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:23PM (#35745155)
I'd give my favorite toes for a windows computer that can turn on reliably without having to apply innumerable updates, open a document without involving a web browser, or leave my taskbar icons alone from one month to the next. And I would literally pay a fee if my MS-powered work machines were able to go a day without some inane popup notification getting between me and whatever I want to click on. The best UI for an is one that stays out of the user's way. I cannot stand all these over-engineered, ad-forwarding, popup obsessed cartoon interfaces. When I want you to open a PDF then open the GD PDF using Adobe and go away!

(I talk of my work machines over which I have absolutely no control. Every personal machine I own, that isn't a phone, runs some variation of linux.)

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by bentcorner on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:43PM (#35745397)
IMO a blind spot that all OS vendors have is the "use just once in awhile" use case. The problem is that every small little thing that is added accrues while the system is offline and when it is brought back online you have dozens of updates pending.

I use Windows daily and think it's fine. However today I turned on a laptop in a coffee shop that has been offline for a few weeks, needing to get a few things done. It saturated the small amount of wifi bandwidth allocated to me by the AP for at least a half hour doing stuff, making the work I wanted to do take longer. Under normal circumstances if I used this laptop daily I probably wouldn't have noticed.

It is a paradox that in our world of always-online software that the less you use it the worse it gets.

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by sandworm101 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:57PM (#35745564)
>> "use just once in awhile" use case.

Like the non-removable link in my start menu for the MS "Mixed Reality Portal". Total waste of good pixels.

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by verall on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:23PM (#35745941)
Windows 10 LTSC does most of what you said and can be acquired for less than your toes ;)

I totally get it though, they make it unreasonably difficult to get a usable OS. Default home or even """Professional""" windows makes my eyes water it's so stinky.

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by robscallsign on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:48PM (#35746932)
My daily boot into Linux I'm prompted by no end of updates. Hundreds of megabytes of core libraries, fonts, office suites I never asked for but are installed by default, and of course, the weekly or so kernel update and getting to play the lottery as to whether your computer will boot again.
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by db48x on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:01PM (#35747634)
On Linux you can turn that off if you don’t like it. And if it installed something you don’t need, just uninstall it. You don’t have to moan about it here, just fix it once and then it won’t annoy you again.
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by lizardking on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:02PM (#35744873)
The context menu hiding most of the useful stuff one extra click away is my least favorite change to windows 11.
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by pcurve on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:23PM (#35745158)
agree on customization, but I like the look of the windows 11.

I just wish they would 'finish the job', rather than having hodgepodge of windows 2000 and 7 leftovers that don't blend well.

See how silly this looks.

https://youtu.be/UnlqKXijyY4?t=469

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by hombre_fatal on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:56PM (#35745551)
> See hobby horse mentioned in title

> Click into comments

> Don't engage with TFA

> Rehash random pet peeves about hobby horse

> Become top comment thread above 100 other comments actually discussing TFA

Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by brundolf on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:08PM (#35746447)
Takes me back to maybe my favorite HN comment ever: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23003595
Re:Microsoft is to enable Rust use for Windows 11 kernel by naikrovek on Friday April 28, 2023 @05:07PM (#35747115)
> Phone only have 128 GB? Not enough. Need 129 GB.

best thing I've read all week.