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Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by steveBK123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:01AM (#35742123)
My usual response to these types of concerns is "touch grass", but if one has the means & concern, theres many organizations to fund, green improvements one can make to their home (solar, energy storage, heat pumps, efficient appliances, insulation, better windows, etc), transport (switch to an EV, take trains, stop flying places), plant a tree, etc.

I do find in my circles though that the loudest voices are also the ones who scoffed at my switch to an EV, but fly on vacations 3x/year, so some of it is clearly fashion & posturing.

And some of it is counterintuitive as we see Germany shut down nuclear plants for "green" reasons, only to have to spin back up some coal.

Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by doubled112 on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:40AM (#35742640)
> counterintuitive as we see Germany shut down nuclear plants for "green" reasons, only to have to spin back up some coal

I've read that Poland is having issues where the grid will only support so much, so they need to disable or dial back the renewable energy sources because it's impossible to turn down or off a coal firing plant.

Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by steveBK123 on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:06PM (#35743167)
In the states a lot of left-coded "environmental review" stuff gets used by NIMBYs to block grid improvements / new transmission lines.. which ends up being a bigger blocker of renewables than the permits for the generation itself.

So you end up with multi-year backlogs just to get grid connected with new clean energy generation.

Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by doubled112 on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:49PM (#35743865)
Right, everybody wants the change, but nobody wants it to affect them. As is tradition.
Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by aezart on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:15PM (#35744237)
Yeah, you have to exactly match electric output to demand or things get very bad. Until we have a few more breakthroughs in battery technology, we're going to be stuck with fossil fuels to make up the gap for variable demand. Nuclear can't be ramped up and down quickly, and solar and wind just do whatever they want.

As I understand it, a typical strategy for a power company is:

- nuclear or similar for the base load that's always required

- solar and wind as available

- weather forecasting to determine how much solar and wind will be available

- demand forecasting to determine how much power will be required at any given time

- natural gas to meet predicted solar and wind shortfalls

- RICE engines and battery storage to handle unexpected fluctuations

- contracts to buy and sell power with other nearby power companies

Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by cogman10 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:08PM (#35744961)
> Until we have a few more breakthroughs in battery technology, we're going to be stuck with fossil fuels to make up the gap for variable demand.

I think we are there. We don't need new breakthroughs we need more manufacturing capacity.

LFPs are both cheap and work great for a grid storage and now CATL is announcing new sodium batteries which are pretty ideal for grid storage (cheap and long life).

Re:How to spend money on your friends without it looking lik... by ilyt on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:03PM (#35745646)
It does sound like that, honestly, just needs more investment and maybe engineering into mode distributed storage for the whole renewable stuff.

I'm guessing sweet spot would be something like "big, economically efficient battery per street of houses + solar on every house", but as it would be shared it needs investment and power company have very little incentive for it