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Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by bwanab on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @01:25PM (#35717176)
What are the odds that passing this bill will actually help the mostly Democratic lawmakers who pushed and passed this bill? My guess is the beneficiaries will still largely vote against them due to nebulous culture war issues.
Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by Hankenstein2 on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @01:33PM (#35717310)
Currently Colorado is solidly a blue state and Democratic lawmakers don't actually need help. I am in Titone's district (the sponser) and the right to repair was broadly supported.
Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by dcow on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @01:29PM (#35717244)
What happened to making the world a better place because it’s beneficial to everyone? Not everything has to be election politics game theory.
Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by eganist on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @02:03PM (#35717700)
There's a dark counterargument to this: that those seeking to raise the tide for everyone need to account for the maneuvers by those who wish to opportunistically deregulate and profit.

There's a fine line between elevating the opportunity and quality-of-life floor v. making everyone the same at the expense of individualism and all opportunity (i.e. in favor of "sameness") But basic quality of life improvements that require public funding are often lobbied against with arguments equating raising the floor with "sameness," which harms pretty much everyone.

Hence a dwindling middle class etc

Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by RangerScience on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @02:57PM (#35718376)
> There's a fine line

I don't think that's the case, not at all. I do think it's easy to think you're doing the first when you're not, and I do think it's easy to make the first look like the second, particularly in scarcity-based circumstances, or by "counting the outcome" differently.

I'm interested in hearing why you think that's the case, tho.

To be clear, I'm not arguing that the second (call it "forced equalization") can't or doesn't happen - I'm arguing against it being similar enough to opportunity elevation (good word choice btw!) that there's merely a fine line between them.

Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by eganist on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @03:12PM (#35718556)
> I'm interested in hearing why you think that's the case, tho.

It's a good question, and in hindsight I can see why it wouldn't be obvious.

Basically: because the two are part of an equality gradient, and where the collective draws the line (manifesting as parties with their positions, which of course means there can be more than one to dice up the gradient a bit) depends on a whole host of factors. Culture, experiences, etc.

Your points above largely support the Gradient argument; it's easy to assume teal is blue, or perhaps green, or to convince some people blue is green (comically, some stoplights come to mind). I'm merely sharing my formula for how the line manifests.

I'm guessing we're on the same page and are debating a nuance. Lol

Re:Colorado becomes first to pass ‘right to repair’ for farmers by davidsawyer on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @02:17PM (#35717899)
Obviously making the world a better place is great, but you still gotta win races to have the ability to do so!