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Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by AuryGlenz on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:51PM (#35703161)
We live in an interconnected world so I don't think there would be any localized antibiotic resistance - the effect of that will diffuse across the planet quickly.

That said, I wonder what their IBS rates are like. That can't be great for their gut biome.

Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by decafninja on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:55PM (#35703245)
Sample size of one, but even a half course of antibiotics wreaks havoc on my wife's gut. Which is why she doesn't follow the rest of her family in popping antibiotics for the common cold.

In contrast though, she had a surgical operation last year (in the US). The hospital refused to give her antibiotics immediately following the operation, saying she probably wouldn't need it. This was shocking for her - and the surgical site actually did end up getting mildly infected.

Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by davidjones332 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:56PM (#35703260)
IBS is mostly caused by eating plants not antibiotic misuse. pesticides, herbicides, fungicides created by the plant to stop us eating it and by farmers spraying it on the plant itself - all of these variables are not congruent with a healthy gut biome.
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by tcoff91 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @01:09PM (#35703499)
My gut is only healthy when I'm mostly eating plants, it's crazy to make a blanket statement that eating plants is bad for your gut. How are you supposed to get fiber without plants?
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by ted_bunny on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @01:30PM (#35703804)
If it sounds so ridiculous, maybe consider that you're putting words in their mouth.
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by contingencies on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @01:31PM (#35703819)
Did the grandparent a miss a not? It seems for many people IBS is caused by not eating plants, ie. a diet lacking fiber.
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by ravenstine on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @02:03PM (#35704292)
Fiber isn't essential to the human diet.
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by davidjones332 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @06:07PM (#35707365)
I feel sorry for your poor body. It is trying to make muscles, tissues from foliage and leaves, it is tragic.

What does fiber do for your body, it helps you poop? Carnivores rarely need to poop and when we do it is very small. Our body absorbs and can make use of every bit of the animals we consume.

The body is designed to use animals for fuel and has done so for millennia. I even eat the bones by making a broth every day when I eat. Whose body is happier.. your body trying to make bone from leaves or my body using the collagen from the broth to make bone? I need no fiber to help me poop.

Your leaves are trash , it is trying to poop it all out and it cant even do that because there is so much trash it is clogging up your intestines. The only reason your gut seems healthy with plants is because your biome is full of plant eating bacteria due to your past mistakes. Without plants you get sick now as that bacteria is dying off. I doubt your ancestors had a bad gut and required fiber or they were constipated one day vs shitting in ditches most of the next day feeling nauseous , no they hunted and ate meat and there was none of this "where do you get fiber from" ...

Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by htss2013 on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @12:10AM (#35709563)
I constantly hear about this, but I've never experience bowel issues from antibiotics, nor has anyone in my family, adults or children, from a wide array of them.

I know gut biomes must be different but they must be orders of magnitude more different than I assumed. I don't know what else would explain a little dose nuking people's gut biomes, while we experience absolutely nothing.

Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by AuryGlenz on Friday April 28, 2023 @10:45AM (#35741885)
I was put an antibiotics for acne as a teenager. Once I stopped I had IBS, and still have it to this day. What helped the most was a fecal transplant.

Of course, going on them for years is pretty different from a course of a week or two, and different antibiotics will have different effects.

Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by htss2013 on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:00PM (#35865681)
On a side note, putting people on antibiotics for years seems like a great way to turn your body into a gain of function experiment.
Re:Use of antibiotics in farming endangering human immune sy... by LargoLasskhyfv on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @12:33AM (#35709665)
Probably countered by Kimchi.