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Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by nwcs on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @10:55AM (#35701337)
Here is the technical data of what is really going on - it is not sinister, rather these are files needed by the GPS chipset: https://wwws.nightwatchcybersecurity.com/tag/qualcomm/
Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by freedomben on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @11:13AM (#35701606)
It may have a reasonable explanation of benefits it provides, but so does Intel Management Engine and nearly every privacy-invading feature ever.

I know you didn't personally design it so I'm not asking you these questions, more just thinking through this (although anybody knows the answers I'd appreciate hearing them so I can be more informed).

Why does this need to be built in at such a low level that not even flashing a new OS can see it/stop it? Why can't it be something users can opt in to, or at a minimum opt out of? Whether sinister or not, it's a "call home" mechanism built into to the lowest levels of the hardware, an area where users are powerless, even though they "own" the device.

Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by luca020400 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:52PM (#35703185)
Leaving aside the opt-in/opt-out possibility.

You can remove the services that download the extra GPS data, nothing stops you from doing that, aside making GPS unusable :)

Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by cuu508 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @01:06PM (#35703436)
How?
Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by luca020400 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @07:00AM (#35726213)
You have to manually strip the QCOM additions in the vendor side. It's just a matter of removing files, but I wouldn't expect to do it without some knowledge how the whole thing works in Android, without breaking GPS as a whole.
Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by NavinF on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @03:53PM (#35705784)
> Why does this need to be built in at such a low level that not even flashing a new OS can see it/stop it?

Nobody has shown evidence of that. The article certainly didn't

Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by aidenn0 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @07:59PM (#35708276)
> Why does this need to be built in at such a low level that not even flashing a new OS can see it/stop it? Why can't it be something users can opt in to, or at a minimum opt out of? Whether sinister or not, it's a "call home" mechanism built into to the lowest levels of the hardware, an area where users are powerless, even though they "own" the device.

It's done by the ROM, at the OS level, not the chipset. Some custom ROMs will proxy this request to mask your IP.

Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by wrs on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @11:04AM (#35701469)
And it isn’t the case that the baseband processor is somehow accessing wifi without the knowledge of the kernel. That was a bizarre accusation.
Re:Smartphones with Qualcomm Chip Share Private Information ... by pier25 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @02:59PM (#35705053)
But it's still sharing personal data over an unencrypted connection. That's pretty much illegal under the GDPR laws.