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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by mullingitover on Sunday April 23, 2023 @07:07PM (#35681644)
The problem for the US is that the country went around the world arm-twisting for decades to get other nations to ban drugs. To legalize is obviously the just and correct decision, I think people are just embarrassed to do it at the federal level now purely because of the history.
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by majormajor on Sunday April 23, 2023 @07:16PM (#35681712)
"Worried about looking silly in front of people in other countries" is extremely far from the top of the list for half of Congress, and it's that half that would have more resistance to legalization.
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by rayiner on Sunday April 23, 2023 @07:43PM (#35681914)
Is this some sort of bizarre logical bootstrapping? “To legalize is obviously the just and correct decision. Oh, why are drugs illegal in myriad different countries with different histories, legal systems, religions, and cultures? Well that’s a big US conspiracy.”

The US recently just released a report griping about “human rights violations” in my home country, where they execute drug traffickers in quasi military operations. I don’t think we do it because of some US conspiracy. Rather, drug use and what it gives rise to is deeply offensive in more collective societies. And frankly, was in the west too until it jumped the shark.

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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by tptacek on Sunday April 23, 2023 @07:49PM (#35681958)
At some point you cross the line between philosophical noodling and outright advocating the execution of everyone involved in the drug trade.
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by rayiner on Sunday April 23, 2023 @08:17PM (#35682156)
No philosophical noodling. We should execute more people involved in the drug trade (within constitutional limits).
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by hydrok9 on Sunday April 23, 2023 @08:30PM (#35682260)
Executing people almost never works. You can't kill everyone and the higher-ups will never run out of expendable street-level dealers. The lure of lots of easy money is too strong.
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by JamesBarney on Monday April 24, 2023 @01:02AM (#35683836)
What places have gone hog wild executing drug dealers and not found a reduction in drug use?
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by hydrok9 on Monday April 24, 2023 @11:47AM (#35689131)
It causes a reduction, but it doesn't remove drugs, and you end up killing mostly people who only ended up in drugs because they were desperate, poor, or mentally ill.
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by rayiner on Monday April 24, 2023 @01:16AM (#35683926)
Then execute the higher ups. We used RICO to break the mafia, no reason we couldn’t do it to the drug traffickers.

You’re just saying it’s not possible to have an orderly society and enforce the law, which I don’t believe. If you compare say San Francisco to Singapore, it’s hard not to conclude that permissiveness increases disorder while enforcement decreases it.

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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by piracythrowaway on Sunday April 23, 2023 @11:06PM (#35683232)
Man keeps telling you, quite clearly, exactly what he believes, and you refuse to believe him:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35367591

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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by rayiner on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:38AM (#35686345)
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by forgingahead on Monday April 24, 2023 @02:13AM (#35684230)
And why would that be bad? People actively in the drug trade are profiting off the misery of others and the degradation of society. There is a host of associated crimes that occur due to drug-use and in places where drugs and drug-abusers are prevalent.

If people in a society vote to deal with this issue, and their solution is to execute people in the drug-trade, why is that bad? Why is Rayiner's legitimate opinion being considered illegitimate by you?

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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by rayiner on Monday April 24, 2023 @02:41AM (#35684365)
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Re:Delaware will become the 22nd state to legalize recreatio... by deepsquirrelnet on Sunday April 23, 2023 @11:15PM (#35683286)
I don’t think there’s many who would feel any shame at all. Who do you envision would be embarrassed?
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