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Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by electrondood on Saturday April 22, 2023 @05:38PM (#35671155)
False, it's actually slightly cheaper than a new Camry.

That's base price, and doesn't even account for significantly lower cost of ownership.

Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by greedo on Saturday April 22, 2023 @06:00PM (#35671289)
Please don't post easily refutable lies.

Camry MSRP is $26,220 Model Y is $46,990

I would give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps you're not using US prices and Camry's might be 76% more expensive where you live, but I doubt it.

Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by thorncorona on Saturday April 22, 2023 @06:30PM (#35671496)
Last time I went to the dealership they were asking 27K for a 2020 Camry and mentioned they had no new inventory in stock and everything was 5K over msrp minimum.

TM3 base model for me came out to about 35K w/ tax credits.

If you include how much you save in gas it checks out.

Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by soganess on Saturday April 22, 2023 @07:05PM (#35671722)
Last time I checked there are apps you can use to negotiate a quote for specific trims with a multiple dealers so you can get the car you want without stepping foot on the lot. If you live in a major city, getting a base model Camry isn't even kind of impossible. Getting a new model 3 for 27k is.

Furthermore, while the model 3 has the same wheelbase length as a Camry, there are smaller cars that have the same passenger capacity. As an example, the model 3 has an internal passenger volume of 97 cubic feet, which is slightly less than the Civic's 99 cu ft. So if that is the metric which matters to you, well 23k is now the price to beat.

"Doing X is slightly harder than I want, so I will use that as a basis for justifying something more expensive while still feeling like I did something prudent" is a pretty transparent move and an indicator that you aren't price sensitive.

As for the gas vs electricity price costs offset, I only drive 5k a year, so cut that number in half. Lord forbid I live in an apt and park on the street, then I'm truly effed.

The model 3 is an expensive fast car. That is okay, better than okay, that is awesome and there is no question you get a lot of bang for your buck. I'd love to own one! That said, it isn't a Honda Civic, Toyota Camry, or $OTHER_PRICE_ECO_CAR, and trying to draw such a comparison is all kinds of odd.

Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by slaw on Saturday April 22, 2023 @07:48PM (#35671945)
Tesla Model 3 is expensive quick car, not fast car. From LA to Vegas Corolla will be faster.
Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by xur17 on Saturday April 22, 2023 @06:28PM (#35671487)
Shouldn't you be comparing to the model 3, which has a base price of 39k?
Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by greedo on Saturday April 22, 2023 @08:20PM (#35672151)
Model 3 is $39K less the $7500 rebate. Camry is still far cheaper...
Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by slaw on Saturday April 22, 2023 @06:50PM (#35671621)
Camry is in different class. You should compare Tesla model 3, MSRP $39.9k to Toyota Corolla, MSRP $21.5k

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparisons/?veh1=401884809&veh2...

Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by nxm on Saturday April 22, 2023 @08:29PM (#35672196)
I wouldn’t compare a model 3 to an econobox
Re:Tesla's California market share tumbles despite aggressiv... by slaw on Sunday April 23, 2023 @02:44AM (#35673942)
What prevents you from comparing two sedans? Hype?