Re:Roger Boisjoly dies at 73; engineer tried to halt Challen...
by mduerksen on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @10:56AM
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The engineers didn't do the best job of communicating the certainty of the problem, the magnitude of the problem, etc.
That's a recurring theme when management screws up badly.
Intellectual honesty applied to this particular situation:
1. The management should know that the engineers are more profound in the topic than they are.
2. The management should know that lives are at stake.
3. The management should notice that the engineers take their time and argue until late at night, mentioning "death", "explosion"
4. The management should know that communication skills may vary.
But management still did not act upon it, because they did not know their limits. That's their fault, nobody else's.
I'm glad you take your responsibility seriously.
Re:Roger Boisjoly dies at 73; engineer tried to halt Challen...
by ak217 on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @10:45AM
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Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing. Can you say what you work on, or at least give us an idea? Systems more complicated than the space shuttle - that sounds really interesting and I'm not sure which ones those are.
The engineers knew what was going to happen with a fairly high degree of certainty - enough that the launch shouldn't hvae happened. Then they turned to management and tried to present their findings. Clearly the business guys didn't want to be the ones to hold up the launch, they had a strong incentive not to. So the engineers had to convince them why the company should basically stick its neck out as one of hundreds and hundreds of vendors and stop this launch. The engineers didn't do the best job of communicating the certainty of the problem, the magnitude of the problem, etc. So it was a little bit of both.
That lecture was probably 8 years ago for me, but it definitely left a lasting impression. Today I work on systems that truthfully are more complicated than the space shuttle and also have a lot more lives at stake. "Intellectual honesty" is a phrase I live by. There have been times I fucked up some math and knew we needed to fix something - even though it would money and delay, but I stuck to my guns and made sure it happened. The alternative is too likely to lead to disaster. It keeps me up at night, and those are the near misses. I can't imagine what that guy went through knowing they almost stopped it, but didn't.