Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versions Hit Record Highs

Re:Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versio... by matsemann on Saturday April 22, 2023 @06:34AM (#35665098)

But people (including you it seems) don't really understand the scale at which meat production harm the environment compared to vegetables. Yes, every mass production have problems, but with meat you need multiple times the amount of everything, because you first need to produce the food the cow or whatever eats, and then the meat production.

For instance, it's multiple times less co2 impact for me eating an avocado here in Norway that's been shipped half the globe around from south america, compared to eating meat from the local farm. The scales are just so incredibly different in production (vs transportation) that it's not to "gotcha" many believe to claim that something imported is automatically bad.

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Re:Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versio... by jiggywiggy on Saturday April 22, 2023 @08:26AM (#35665905)

You can't honestly claim buying avacado's is better for the planet, it's wreaked social & ecological havoc in multiple south American countries with dried up rivers, gangs and lack of diversification of the income of a country.

Next to that it's not always Plants vs meats. In many places only cattle can graze but not much of value can grow.

The CO2 issue is really a terrible comparison. Everything cows put out has been put in from the air. The airplanes are excreting new/old CO2 taken from fossil fuels. Some claim cows are still worse because of methane, but they forget to mention methane only had 12 years lifespan in the atmosphere.

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Re:Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versio... by myaccountonhn on Saturday April 22, 2023 @09:26AM (#35666405)

> it's wreaked social & ecological havoc in multiple south American countries with dried up rivers, gangs and lack of diversification of the income of a country.

The produce to feed the cattle is often detrimental to the environment too. They're not cutting down rain forests in Brazil to produce soy for meat substitutes but rather for produce to feed animals.

But it's absolutely important to eat local and if you're gonna eat meat ensure that the animal was fed local produce too.

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Re:Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versio... by selimthegrim on Sunday April 23, 2023 @11:27AM (#35677056)

You’d really rather have them making drugs than avocados?

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Re:Animal Meat and Milk Sales Drop in Europe as Vegan Versio... by deepsun on Sunday April 23, 2023 @05:42PM (#35680957)

The question is about scales (or proportions) -- yes, most mass produced foods, (e.g. avocados) wreaked havoc, but the scope meat production does that might be way larger.

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