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Re:There Is No A.I by harry8 on Friday April 21, 2023 @08:57PM (#35662226)
Descartes "evil demon" from 1641 says Wikipedia is the philosophical idea in all it's forms short of "but with a computer"

Anyone got anything earlier? Wouldn't surprise me.

https://iep.utm.edu/evil-new/

Re:There Is No A.I by blazespin on Friday April 21, 2023 @09:09PM (#35662296)
pretty sure first person that had a dream figured out VR.
Re:There Is No A.I by Yahivin on Friday April 21, 2023 @09:23PM (#35662387)
Or peyote.
Re:There Is No A.I by harry8 on Saturday April 22, 2023 @08:36PM (#35672230)
yeah maybe kinda? Lack of control of the dream there that makes a difference for mine. YMMV. Dunno when lucid dreaming was discovered.

Was there something written down about it by one of the ancient greeks or similar vintage?

Re:There Is No A.I by earthboundkid on Friday April 21, 2023 @11:25PM (#35663083)
Descartes explicitly wrote about automatons and telling them apart from people using language and reasoning as sign posts (“the Turing test” three hundred years before Turing).