Re:Rhythm (taal) in Indian Classical Music (2011)
by AlecSchueler on Friday April 21, 2023 @06:30AM
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> It's a fascinating technique that I think has no true analog in western music.
Closest thing I could think of would be pieces like Piano Phase by Steve Reich.
Re:Rhythm (taal) in Indian Classical Music (2011)
by DontchaKnowit on Friday April 21, 2023 @08:16AM
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Perhaps I am not conceptualizing this right, but it sounds to me like it is basically a hemiola, which can be found in a lot of western music, albeit not much in classical or pop. If you listen to math rock or stuff like meshuggah though, its all over the place.
Re:Rhythm (taal) in Indian Classical Music (2011)
by rolfea on Friday April 21, 2023 @11:52AM
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Typically in music theory, we would talk about a hemiola as a rhythmic technique in which a rhythm in a simple (2) metric division is introduced in the context of a compound (3) division of the beat, or vice versa.
What the parent post describes isn't an isolated gesture like that, but a sustained state of overlapping meters, if I'm understanding correctly. In the case of the ICM described, as well as math rock/meshuggah/etc, I would describe the technique as "Polymetric" or maybe a "Sustained polyrhythm," and not a hemiola.
Re:Rhythm (taal) in Indian Classical Music (2011)
by DontchaKnowit on Friday April 21, 2023 @09:16PM
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Gotcha, so does share structure with some niche western music but hemiola is kot quite the right term for it.
It is true that many forms of african-derived music in the US will shift the precise position of beats to create swing/syncopation/dilla-time, but this is generally done on a per-note basis, not on a per-cycle basis as happens with a half-beat tala.