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Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by iancmceachern on Thursday April 20, 2023 @08:52PM (#35648533)
Do you live in a tent? Would you make the same comparison about your house?

We live in our RV for 3-6 months a year, in weather from -10 in Colorado blizzards and 120 degree California summers. In rain snow and sleet. I work remotely from it.

A tent is not a home. An RV It is for many of us.

Before you throw more stones, it's far more eco friendly and lower carbon Footprint to own an rv and travel and stay in it in various places than to own several properties and fly between them.

Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by hytdstd on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:45PM (#35648896)
> it's far more eco friendly and lower carbon Footprint to own an rv and travel and stay in it in various places than to own several properties and fly between them.

It's considered worse to drive (vs fly) unless you have more than 2 people-- and that's for a normal car. With a truck+trailer the break-even point would need more passengers.

https://terrapass.com/blog/carbon-footprint-of-driving-vs-fl...

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2015/09/evolving-climate-...

Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by iancmceachern on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:55PM (#35648952)
The info you posted doesn't include the property and accommodations, it's only the travel, which of course is higher, the savings overall is in the stay, so you have to compare it to flying AND accommodations, not just flying.

https://www.trianglerv.com/blog/post/how-an-rving-vacation-a...

Tiny homes and RVs have about 7% of the energy Footprint of traditional dwellings: https://beginrv.com/tiny-house-vs-rv/

So if you add all that up, its more eco friendly, affordable, and what we've chosen to do.

Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by asmosoinio on Friday April 21, 2023 @01:08AM (#35650003)
That's per passager mile, right?

For the comparison parent post is making - leisure travel - I think there's a big difference in that flying enables much larger distances, thus much more emissions.

You can easily fly 1000 miles each way for a weekend trip. Not as easily with a car, the travel tends to be much shorter.

Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by iancmceachern on Friday April 21, 2023 @05:01AM (#35651323)
And also doesn't take into account economy of scale, a family of 4 has 4x the emissions in the plane example, same as 1 person in the car example. So if you do the math as a family of 4 it really changes things.
Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by strken on Friday April 21, 2023 @07:57AM (#35652432)
Owning multiple properties and flying between them is something rich people do that wastes an astronomical amount of resources, and the fact that it wastes more than towing 13,000lbs of RV around doesn't make either of them any better.

Or any worse - you apparently didn't notice, but I wrote that there are good reasons to own an RV, and want to reiterate that. Probably in your heart of hearts you know whether your ownership is justified, and I don't need to tell you.

Re:Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks by iancmceachern on Saturday April 22, 2023 @11:30AM (#35667546)
thank you for your last sentence.

TONs of non-rich people also have 2 properties and go between them. You can buy a cabin or vacation property in the rural US for a surprisingly affordable amount. I know many folks who are certainly not rich, but do spend time in various locations.

Think traveling nurses, seasonal employees, etc. Also look up the term "snow bird"