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Re:Replit - How to train your own LLM Models by kkielhofner on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @10:14PM (#35635576)
Looking at what they're doing here probably not as much as you think.

As you note, with the plethora of open/open-ish LLMs today and LoRA + PEFT you can fine tune with low VRAM and pretty quickly so even a single A100 or whatever cloud GPUs are just fine. I've even seen people pull it off in reasonable time on super cheap T4s, A10s, etc.

I doubt anyone reading a blog post is attempting to train a "true" multi-billion param LLM from scratch.

Re:Replit - How to train your own LLM Models by ftxbro on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @10:22PM (#35635611)
I'm getting downvoted for rudeness so I had gpt rewrite my comment so it's friendlier:

Thank you for your response! I appreciate your insights on fine-tuning and using open LLMs. However, I was hoping for more information on the cost of training LLMs from scratch. Could you please elaborate on that? Thank you again for your help!

original unfriendly comment below:

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OK thank you but that doesn't help answer my questions at all.

> Looking at what they're doing here probably not as much as you think.

thanks I guess

> As you note [...] you can fine tune

yes I did note that, to preempt answers like 'you can just fine-tune instead of training from scratch bro' but i guess it didn't work

> I doubt anyone reading a blog post is attempting to train a "true" multi-billion param LLM from scratch.

thanks again

Re:Replit - How to train your own LLM Models by kkielhofner on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @10:40PM (#35635718)
Ouch.

Ok, I'll try again because I read the article and watched the demo video from Mosaic:

- MosaicML claims to have some magic that efficiently autoscales with awareness of specific instance per hour pricing.

- MosaicML claims to have auto-optimize magic that makes training 3-7x faster.

- The incentives seem to be aligned because their value prop is likely "we'll markup 10% but save you 50%" (or whatever).

It's too bad Replit didn't provide the costs for this post in the same way Stanford, etc have done with Alpaca, Vicuna, etc. They probably didn't for from-scratch training because the answer to your question is almost certainly "it depends" or "if you have to ask you can't afford it" (for now).

Re:Replit - How to train your own LLM Models by ftxbro on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @10:52PM (#35635806)
Thanks I understand better now. Sorry my other comment was rude. Probably I'm just frustrated that I will never be able to make a sentient bot because it will cost literally a billion dollars, and I just have to sit on sidelines and watch the billionaires play with their sentient bots.