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Re:Why Some Researchers Think I’m Wrong About Social Media a... by molotovh on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @11:19AM (#35629247)
Note that in your example, it's not the athletes that are being toxic (usually), it's the spectators.

It's common for sports fans to say things like, "we're playing Los Angeles next week" or "we picked up so-and-so in the draft" when there's really no "we" about it. The speaker is not involved in the action in any way other than as one observing it. But using that language makes them feel included in something bigger. And sometimes the brain starts to believe you really ARE part of that bigger thing, and you start taking actions to reinforce that belief.

(And I want it noted that I'm very much including myself in this assessment. This is not some "nerds > jocks" kind of thing. As an American football fan myself, I've made a conscious effort to stop saying "we" specifically because this has started to bother me.)

So no, participating in sports isn't unhealthy. Succumbing to the delusion of participation as a spectator, that's what becomes unhealthy.

Re:Why Some Researchers Think I’m Wrong About Social Media a... by latexr on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @11:41AM (#35629577)
You could say that about any type of tribalism, including nationalism. The Americans¹ who chant “we’re number 1” typically had zero involvement in whatever they’re rallying for².

¹ Or any other group, but US Americans in particular seem to love this cry.

² And are probably mistaken about their ranking, but that’s a different issue.

Re:Why Some Researchers Think I’m Wrong About Social Media a... by taeric on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @11:50AM (#35629695)
Ish. Trash talking is a huge thing in sports. Similarly many prudish administrators go out of their way to punish the players for celebrations and such.

Edit: And I'm curious how this relates to the topic at hand. Not that I think it is unrelated, but specifically how. We seem to be in rather strong agreement that it is the relationship with a thing that is unhealthy, with regards to sports. Why or how would that be different with regards to social media?

Re:Why Some Researchers Think I’m Wrong About Social Media a... by saltcured on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @04:10PM (#35632733)
The connection I see is something like "imaginary tribalism". The members of an audience form a one-sided sense of belonging that distorts their behaviors.

The mechanism seems to be the "media" part. All the promotional content is blasted out at scale in a way that triggers this false or amplified sense of social engagement. It's not the social part of social media that hurts, so much as the media platform part that enables so many promoters to thrive.

Re:Why Some Researchers Think I’m Wrong About Social Media a... by taeric on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @04:54PM (#35633203)
How much is an amplified sense of authority? It isn't just that there are promoters, but many of these promoters really dig into the ideas that they have the answers.

This leans into all media and aligns with how much credence is given to pundits. People with good ideas wind up digging in and pushing that they have the only reasonable idea.