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Re:Coinbase CEO: we're preparing to go to court with the U.S... by nostrademons on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @12:03PM (#35615837)
The way he described it, he's talking about CDS. "a mortgage, packed into a portfolio (MBS), that has a derivative (CDS), and that derivative’s volatility (VIX for CDS) is tradeable."

CDS is (usually) a derivative on MBS - it's a promise to pay out if a given MBS security defaults.

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