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Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by phoe-krk on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:26AM (#35602189)
If that is the case, how would you describe the act of comparing English to languages which actually have consistent letter-phoneme pronunciation throughout the language (starting with e.g. the same number of available letters and phonemes and a 1:1 mapping between them)?
Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by TRiG_Ireland on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:57AM (#35602629)
I would say that English has a greater level of orthographic depth than some other languages (but far less than, say, Thai).
Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by rcoveson on Monday April 17, 2023 @12:14PM (#35602862)
Spanish is "strictly phonetic"

English is "[very] loosely phonetic"

Hieroglyphic systems are "non-phonetic"

Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by josefx on Monday April 17, 2023 @02:58PM (#35604966)
> Hieroglyphic systems are "non-phonetic"

Wasn't there at least one that just encoded letters almost identical to the alphabet we use?

Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by wl on Monday April 17, 2023 @04:42PM (#35606339)
The Latin alphabet is ultimately derived from Egyptian hieroglyphs.
Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by wl on Monday April 17, 2023 @04:39PM (#35606302)
Egyptian hieroglyphs are, for the most part, phonetic.
Re:Sold a Story: How Teaching Kids to Read Went So Wrong by lazyasciiart on Monday April 17, 2023 @04:40PM (#35606315)
Funnily enough, Egyptian hieroglyphs were in fact phonetic: they just used recognizable pictures instead of abstract symbols to represent the sounds. It's possible they were sometimes used as ideograms too, but not the standard.

Chinese ideograms are not phonetic, because seeing the written character gives you no indication of what the sound of the spoken word is.