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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by cardboardbach on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:16PM (#35596501)
It's not enough for an automated ATC to be somewhat good or decent.

It just has to be as good as a human, and GPT-4 is already smarter than most humans.

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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by bobthepanda on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:21PM (#35596522)
It may be smarter than the average human, but probably not smarter than trained humans specialized in ATC, at this particular time.

ATC in particular depends on exact phrasing, in issuing commands, acknowledgement, and repetition back, so GPT’s ability to fudge something nice sounding is actually pretty bad.

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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by flangola7 on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:49PM (#35596667)
GPT-4 fine tuned on ATC data could be highly effective
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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by bobthepanda on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:56PM (#35596699)
ATC operation is not a search problem or an output generation problem, which is what GPT is primarily solving. It's the knapsack problem with a very complicated knapsack.
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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by flangola7 on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @02:18AM (#35610554)
I don't know what knapsacks have to do with LLMs. I didn't say anything about search or output generation, nor did I say those are the only things transformer models can solve.
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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by walterbell on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:25PM (#35596547)
> smarter than most humans

In some pre-defined contexts.

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Re:ATC staff shortages: 11,000 Flights Cut from NYC and DCA ... by refulgentis on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:17PM (#35596507)
This guys being too nice which leaves the door open to low effort replies: OP wasn’t even downvoted, and you have to watch about 10 min of air traffic videos on YouTube to understand. And I’m high on the GPT supply
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