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Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by alecco on Sunday April 16, 2023 @10:50AM (#35590478)
Multiple comments complain they are blamed and multiple comments complain about pay. Yet education spending is at its highest (relative to GDP).

I agree with them about bad parents and mobile phones/social media, though.

Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by nova22033 on Sunday April 16, 2023 @10:53AM (#35590519)
High education spending doesn't equate to good teacher pay. The pay for administrative staff has gone through the roof.

IMHO, teachers are underpaid for what they do and what we expect of them.

Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by musicale on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:10AM (#35590646)
> High education spending doesn't equate to good teacher pay. The pay for administrative staff has gone through the roof.

Non-teaching expenditures have accounted for about 40% of the budget since 1980. However they were lower in 1970 (32%), so there seems to have been some expansion in the 1970s.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d21/tables/dt21_236.10.a...

Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by sethammons on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:57AM (#35591166)
When I taught in the San Bernardino City Unified School District there were more administrator staff than teachers.

Ah, still the case: https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?I...

Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by deepthunder on Sunday April 16, 2023 @03:42PM (#35593600)
Apparently Canada spends less on its Public Education System than the United States but teachers salaries are higher in Canada. US Public School System is top heavy with administrators by comparison.
Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by midoridensha on Monday April 17, 2023 @02:23AM (#35597376)
It's unAmerican if the managers aren't being paid 10-100 times what their underlings are being paid.
Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by evanreichard on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:09AM (#35590639)
Sorry just trying to understand. They are part of the problem because they complain about how much they get paid?

Correct me if I’m making an incorrect assumption, but you seem to imply that they get paid too much because of the spending relative to GDP?

Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by replygirl on Sunday April 16, 2023 @11:07AM (#35590630)
so your argument about teachers being part of the problem is that high investment is a leading factor in the collapse of our education system, and teacher salaries, which are about 3/4 of the average salary, are to blame for this high investment?
Re:Is the US education system in a state of collapse, and wh... by bart_spoon on Sunday April 16, 2023 @12:25PM (#35591439)
Higher education is also more expensive than ever, but most of that money is going to bloated administration positions and programs that didn’t exist a decade ago. Just because money is being spent doesn’t mean it’s being spent on teachers.