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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by iamerroragent on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:47PM (#35560217)
"Only the LEDs I have in table lamps have survived more than five years. All enclosed bulbs die from cheap components and heat damage. "

Part of the problem is trying to make LEDs work in our preexisting lighting systems which requires components to make a low voltage DC light work with our existing AC wiring.

https://hackaday.com/2019/02/05/what-happened-to-the-100000-...

https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-l-e-d-quanda...

> “My starting point is, get the economics right,” Tim Cooper, a design professor who heads the sustainable-consumption research group at Nottingham Trent University, told me. It’s already possible to buy durable products, he said—Miele washing machines, Vitsoe shelving, Jaguar cars. But, because such products command premium prices, they remain niche goods; by Cooper’s estimate they make up less than five per cent of the market. To truly change a light bulb will require policy changes—whether regulatory, market-based, or voluntary within industries—that support longer product lifetimes

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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by alpaca128 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:53PM (#35561232)
> Part of the problem is trying to make LEDs work in our preexisting lighting systems

I would agree if lamps designed from scratch for LEDs were any better in terms of longevity, but so far our ~20 year old halogen lamp has survived more than a dozen LEDs.

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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by iamerroragent on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:59PM (#35561312)
This will likely last you:

https://www.dyson.com/lighting

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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by hinkley on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:02PM (#35563342)
The general sentiment from teardown reviews is that the bulbs are using cheap electronics, and they could charge perhaps another $1 MSRP to make a bulb that lasted for a dozen years instead of a handful by switching out some components. When bulbs were $15 apiece that was exceptionally galling. It makes a tiny bit more sense when they're 3 for $16.
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Re:Apple will use 100 percent recycled cobalt in batteries b... by EricLeer on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:36PM (#35573103)
As a European I am a bit surprised by this comment. Resistant based light bulbs have been banned already for some years, and all the LED lighting you can get in stores just work? Don't really have to think about it. Also would not assume that a 220V grid would make this easier.
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