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Re:YouTube-Dl Hosting Ban Paves the Way to Privatized Censor... by CharlesW on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:43AM (#35555327)
> I wonder what the music industry is cooking in regards to generative sound.

No need to wonder: "AI-generated songs on Apple Music and Spotify breach copyright, says music label UMG" https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/12/ai-generated-songs/

To be fair to the creators whose IP powers this generative AI, I think it's worth noting that model makers continue to expect to build their wealth on others' IP with no consequences: https://www.billboard.com/pro/universal-music-asks-spotify-a...

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Re:YouTube-Dl Hosting Ban Paves the Way to Privatized Censor... by mdp2021 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:50AM (#35555443)
But this, specifically, seems to be right.

> Some of these songs are AI-generated covers of existing songs [...] Chatbots might use entire phrases, sentences, or more, from human authors. Similarly, music bots might replicate both music and lyrics from human artists

There is "learning" proper, as having assimilated the important elements of the experience (allowing to use those principles for further creation), and there is "copying".

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Re:YouTube-Dl Hosting Ban Paves the Way to Privatized Censor... by thewebcount on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:29PM (#35559929)
And even humans get it wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ronson#Lawsuit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Sweet_Symphony#Credits_...

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Re:YouTube-Dl Hosting Ban Paves the Way to Privatized Censor... by yoyohello13 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:29PM (#35558019)
> model makers continue to expect to build their wealth on others' IP with no consequences.

Is this not what record labels do?

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Re:YouTube-Dl Hosting Ban Paves the Way to Privatized Censor... by CharlesW on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:34PM (#35558100)
Explicitly not. Labels have a contractual agreement with each creator that specifies every conceivable fine detail of the business arrangement.
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