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Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by esperent on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:16AM (#35554940)
It's Amazon so assume that they do unless it's extremely clearly stated that they don't. And even then...
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by j_maffe on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:55AM (#35555508)
It's opt out.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by maicro on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:19AM (#35555869)
"Hey Alexa, disable all microphones." "Sure." "Thanks Alexa." "You're welcome."...
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by ilc on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:40PM (#35560090)
The hardware mute on Amazon Alexa's is actually supposed to be a real mute, and on the Echo 5 we have, there's a hardware shutter over the camera.

Once the hardware mute is engaged, I've not had the Alexa reply.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of reasons to bash Amazon. I just don't count Alexa and privacy with mute among them.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by maicro on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:54PM (#35561934)
Fair point, though I will say unless I look at the circuit myself and confirm the hardware mute switch is cutting an actual signal to/from the microphone, I won't fully trust it. Whether that matters is up for debate - I carry around a Google Pixel phone all day, and while I don't use any of the voice assistants, I also don't audit everything closely enough to guarantee nothing is spying on me randomly.

As for my joke in general - I guess my point, if I have to make one beyond making a joke, is that I don't really trust any company to do what they claim in all circumstances. Even if they have every intention of doing so, some bug or bad actor could compromise the intent - not saying it's identical, but look at the recent issue with Tesla camera pictures being shared. So if you're working on some mission critical or top secret code, I wouldn't trust _anything_ to be running or looking at it - not Copilot, CodeWhisperer, etc. etc.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by brutusurp on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:41PM (#35560101)
Exactly this.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by progmetaldev on Thursday April 13, 2023 @06:09PM (#35562800)
Wireshark on your network. I know this was probably tongue in cheek, and not undeserved, but you can always prove this.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by maicro on Friday April 14, 2023 @09:09AM (#35569191)
It was indeed a joke, but yeah, that's valid (and was how the Eufy issue was discovered IIRC).
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by PartiallyTyped on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:29AM (#35556015)
AWS is very stringent when it comes to user privacy.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by pleb_nz on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:58AM (#35557463)
Sounds like you trust what a big corporate entity with many arms whose primary purpose is to generate for shareholders
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by asmor on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:16PM (#35557789)
AWS is very different from Amazon in that regard.

I've used GCP and AWS for about equal time and Google was the one with several worrisome overreaches into customer's accounts moments. Meanwhile AWS actually lets you view and adjust the role and policy given to customer support on your account.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by pleb_nz on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:20AM (#35566131)
Fully aware AWS and amazon are different, but my point still stands IMO. Not sure why some people have so much trust in massive corporations who utlimately are all about making money for shareholders. For some people it's like supporting a sports team. My trust in them is one of caution and low expectations.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by PartiallyTyped on Friday April 14, 2023 @06:21AM (#35567717)
I said that because I worked at AWS, because I have seen the internal processes in action, and because I am aware that AWS has far more to lose by looking at customer data than they can gain.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by pleb_nz on Friday April 14, 2023 @04:17PM (#35574183)
Understand that as well, but its not always enough of a deterrent for some companies. And things change. Caution is a good thing IMO, e.g. don't lock yourself in so you're always capable of moving your solutions.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by PartiallyTyped on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:01PM (#35557512)
You are allowed to distrust everyone.

I am merely speaking from experience.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by dragonwriter on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:09PM (#35558660)
AWS is probably very stringent on user privacy on the services that they specifically enter into HIPAA BAAs covering or which are associated with other data-security-compliance-related agreements or certifications.

Amazon as a whole has quite a history of using business data of people they are selling services to for their own purposes, and I wouldn’t put it past them with any AWS services not covered by the compliance agreements/certifications.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by acdha on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:39PM (#35559158)
You certainly can’t rule out a large company making dumb moves but I have gotten the impression that they’re very hesitant to do anything which would make companies stop trusting them with private data, and the controls they have like allowing you to control the encryption policy for Code Whisperer data support that. It’d have to be worth a lot to make customers question whether it’s safe to use S3 (which uses the same mechanism).
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by PartiallyTyped on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:51PM (#35560271)
Let’s say that people have been released for attempting to look at data they shouldn’t be.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by ekleraki on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:27PM (#35558989)
Part of releasing AWS products to customers involves getting cleared by InfoSec plus other compliance teams.

For whatever reason I got flagged :')

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by rochester46 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:11PM (#35564364)
Amazon and AWS have completely separate privacy/security teams and different ways of approaching it. _Every_ AWS service treats user data like radioactive material. If you're an AWS service and you're found to have a way for AWS employees to get access to customer data, that's a fast track for you and your managers to get an invite to a meeting with the CEO to explain how it happened, how you're going to fix it, and what you're going to do to make sure it never happens again. That's not an exaggeration, they take it very seriously.