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Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by flippinburgers on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:00AM (#35554727)
Birds are not mammals. Fish are not mammals. Mammals on the other hand have males that impregnate the females.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by ben_w on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:37AM (#35555254)
Producing a more complicated definition with a special case for mammals vs. not mammals doesn't really add anything, even if it weren't for the platypus or the echidna being further examples of things not working like that.

Biology is messy, the boundaries are messy, the words we use are merely for our own benefit to simplify a messy and complex reality.

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by flippinburgers on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:45AM (#35556264)
Messy edge cases doesn't mean let's just throw everything away.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by ben_w on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:37PM (#35558140)
I didn't ask you to throw anything away.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:19AM (#35554987)
Someone forgot that the platypus exists.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by flippinburgers on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:44AM (#35556247)
The exception is not the rule.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:26AM (#35556909)
Abstractions are useful, this is true, but the exceptions are a reminder that they are not reality, they are just a categorization we overlay on top of reality to help us understand it. Their utility is contextual.

Your abstraction ignores all the sterile men and women too, by the way. That's because it is a particularly bad one.

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by flippinburgers on Friday April 14, 2023 @11:42AM (#35570805)
The fact of the matter is that if someone is missing a leg they are absolutely human but they are broken nonetheless.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by ben_w on Friday April 14, 2023 @01:49PM (#35572442)
That analogy illuminates nothing.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by flippinburgers on Friday April 14, 2023 @06:03PM (#35575395)
To be sterile is to be broken but it doesn't reduce ones humanity.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by ben_w on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:49AM (#35614741)
Nobody's suggesting that it might.

You're the one who wrote:

> Mammals on the other hand have males that impregnate the females.

We're all saying "that's not a very useful definition".

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by icehawk on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:19AM (#35556812)
someone forgot the echidna exists