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Re:A swarm of micro-quadcopters by baddox on Sunday February 05, 2012 @09:48AM (#3554144)
I completely disagree. None of those sensors would likely give anywhere near the accuracy, frame rate, or context of the current system. Also, there is the issue of where the computation is done. It seems obvious to me that the intended goal is a decentralized system, where every vehicle is autonomous and creates an internal model of its own surroundings. As best I can tell, in the current system all the computation and dispatching so instructions is done by a single centralized external computer (the one the external cameras are attached to).
Re:A swarm of micro-quadcopters by yoos on Sunday February 05, 2012 @09:31PM (#3555963)
Personally, I've operated accelerometers and gyros at 200 Hz after some low-pass filtering, which is really all you need for this application. I'm sure there are sensors that operate at even higher frequencies if need be. The GPS module doesn't have to be updated too fast (maybe 10 Hz?) because it only serves to correct for horizontal drift.

I run the 100 Hz flight control loop for my tricopter on an ATmega1280 clocked at 16 MHz. A _lot_ more could be done with something like the Beagleboard, including generating a 3D map of the surroundings if I mounted a Kinect on it.

I want to agree about the decentralized operation because there would be so many wireless signals that could interfere, but those guys seem to be controlling 20 quadrotors without problems. I know XBees can be configured to communicate on different channels, but decentralized operation will most likely require something beefier like wifi (and that, I don't know how to configure to work over so many different channels).

Re:A swarm of micro-quadcopters by theon144 on Monday February 06, 2012 @01:31PM (#3558553)
Even in best case scenario, I'm not sure GPS would be accurate enough, as it's only accurate down to few centimeters, you'd probably need more if you'd like to perform that kind of acrobatics as shown in the video. And what about the height? You could of course use GPS, but apparently (http://users.erols.com/dlwilson/gpsvert.htm), average consumer devices have error of few meters. Maybe we could use laser range finders pointed at the ground, but what if the quadcopter tilts? Or what if another quadcopter flies underneath it? Of course it's not unsolvable, but it'd probably require more computing power in the quadcopter.

What do you think?

Re:A swarm of micro-quadcopters by baddox on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:09PM (#3558963)
I think LIDAR is the most likely solution. With enough resolution, you could get a reasonable 3D map of the vehicle's surroundings with a very accurate relative model of where the vehicle is located.
Re:A swarm of micro-quadcopters by Qworg on Sunday February 05, 2012 @11:36PM (#3556224)
The wireless becomes the issue then, as the network effect quickly takes over. Sensing at high speed with bad sensors and low power/computation is really tough.