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Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by heywhatupboys on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @01:47AM (#35535502)
> It’s very difficult to start a worker cooperative in a capital-intensive industry

some of the most successful Danish agricultural companies started out as / are cooperatives.

Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by chongli on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:04AM (#35535592)
Very difficult but not impossible. Looks like some of those co-ops go back to the 1700s.

So that provides one possible solution to the problem: start small with no capital and grow over a period of centuries to become a large co-op.

But how do you achieve it today? How do you take a bunch of workers and start a co-op factory that can compete with John Deere?

Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by jezovuk on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:21AM (#35535691)
Credit/VC? Or you start a co-op dairy / farm / repair shop and work for centuries towards arriving at where JD is today (by which time big corps would have moved a few centuries ahead).
Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by chongli on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:55AM (#35535909)
Credit is probably the only way. But I don’t see regular banks jumping at the chance to invest in worker co-ops. Maybe a credit union?

VC doesn’t work. Investors want equity for their money.

Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by zamnos on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:35AM (#35536189)
VC works plenty well. It's a business deal. 100% of a $0 business is $0, so in exchange for enough money to jump start the business that you don't have the funding for, you give up some equity so that in the eventuality that you're successful supplanting John Deere, your investors get paid out. That's how the system works.
Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by chongli on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:14AM (#35536448)
No, it doesn't work. If you let VC invest then you cease to be a worker co-op, you become a regular business.

Worker co-ops have only one class of member: worker-owners. People who do both the day-to-day work and are part owners of the business. Unless the VC people are willing to show up and start punching the clock like everybody else, they are a different class: owners who don't work. Worker co-ops disallow that class of membership by definition.

Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by zamnos on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:57PM (#35545853)
So select for investors who can stomach a specified return, so the company doesn't have to IPO, but can instead buy them out. After the coop is able to generate revenue to and is able to buy out the initial investor's initial investment, and give them a return between 10 and 100x, it reverts to being a traditional coop.
Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by midoridensha on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:23AM (#35536536)
So the solution is to invent a time machine, and go back in time to the days before factories (or internal combustion engines) were invented and stuff was manufactured (with "man" coming from Latin for "hand") by hand in cottages, and start your co-op then.
Re:Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair by heywhatupboys on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:35PM (#35545499)
no, the point is they built their own diary factories