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Re:Ethics, Politics, and Society in the Age of Artificial In... by SoftTalker on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @06:41PM (#35532632)
Work and accomplishing tasks is baked into our sense of purpose. Look at anyone who's long-term unemployed. They mostly lay around ths house playing video games or watching TV at best, or they get involved in criminal stuff at worst. Alcoholism and drug abuse are commonplace. Neglect of dependents is commonplace.

People need work to feel that their lives have meaning.

Post-scarcity utopia is exactly that. A fantasy. If people have nothing to do then civilization will collapse.

Re:Ethics, Politics, and Society in the Age of Artificial In... by JohnFen on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @07:11PM (#35532988)
> People need work to feel that their lives have meaning.

I don't think that follows at all. People need to accomplish things, yes. Those things don't have to be work in the sense we mean it today.

Re:Ethics, Politics, and Society in the Age of Artificial In... by chii on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @01:35AM (#35535420)
> Those things don't have to be work in the sense we mean it today.

i think the word "work" is overloaded with two meaning - one being the regular meaning of doing work (for a wage/price). The other one being to exert oneself.

People _do_ find meaning in exerting oneself, but only for a purpose which is not merely sustenance. For example, intrinsically valuable work like artistic pursuits is work, but would still be done in the event of post-scarcity.

Re:Ethics, Politics, and Society in the Age of Artificial In... by lm28469 on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:00AM (#35539792)
Lots of backed in assumption in here.

The way we designed out current society makes unemployed people some kind of pest, it's not glorified, quite the opposite.

But that's not a god given rule, nothing obliges us to follow that path, especially if (big if) AIs/robots take over most things.

If anything you're flat out wrong, automation moved people from stable and fulfilling jobs (small companies, family companies, life long carriers, &c.) into more and more precarious situations (minijob, student jobs, faceless corporations, hashed carriers, &c.)

Productivity shot through the roof while wages stagnated

PS: I've been unemployed for large chunks of my life and had perfect meaning, I was productive, learned stuff, created stuff, enjoyed nature, got in shape, &c.